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Human DNA Reconfiguration
« on: November 05, 2009, 03:55:06 pm »
Science should explore in detail what changes we can affect on human DNA.
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 05:11:17 pm »
knowing that scientist are human beings too, i'm sure someone somewhere will do just that, whether it's within the law or not
out of curiosity, could you elaborate on your initial statement ?
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 10:26:14 am »
Scientists should seek to Alter the DNA of humans to "improve" them.
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 02:22:39 pm »
i'm glad that you placed the word "improved" in inverted commas, because the logical question must surely be : what is "improved" and who decides what constitutes an improvement ?
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 05:08:56 pm »
I would assume "improvement" would be increased physical capabilities.   Increased mental capacity, better memory.    Another would be removing known items from genes that are factors for illnesses or genetic diseases.

Other factors might include features(height, body type, hair color, eye color), which would be more open to opinion as to which would be "improvements".

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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 05:35:20 pm »
surely you're aware that improvement in one department (say the brain) does not always go together with improvements in others - e.g in comparison with chimps we're absolute weaklings when it comes to muscle power

also, selection for "purety of race" is a sure recipe for genetic decrepitude, as is shown by the various "top" breeds of dogs, who are often so inbred that genetic defects come to the fore
btw, if you see how humankind has "improved" dogs you have to wonder whether this is really to the benefit of the individual animal
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 09:23:58 am »
Maybe you noticed the story recently which showed how you could make transgenic rats?

Until recently it was impossible for most species to make transgenic animals. That's why most transgenic mammals are mice. The old technique works best on them.

The new technique allows to make a transgenic from any species!

Also humans!

Costs?

60.000€
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 02:38:24 pm »
transgenic with what ?
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 02:43:23 pm »
change a gene. Exchange a gene. Knock out a gene. Insert a gene. Change a regulatory sequence.

whatever you want.
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 02:48:54 pm »
so it doesn't have to be from another species ?
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2009, 03:47:57 am »
It can be. It can also be a complete new sequence.


When i have a bit of time I will give some more background information.
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Re: Human DNA Reconfiguration
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2010, 08:37:14 am »
I will make my children glow in the dark. It's an improvement of aesthetics.
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